Re: [apps-discuss] IETF technical plenary: the end of application protocols

Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net> Mon, 28 March 2011 11:53 UTC

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Dave, 

I just found this quote on "Professional XMPP Programming with JavaScript and jQuery" http://professionalxmpp.com/ 

"
The book's quite inspiring. Very few books on programming make me want to actually program something.
"
—Dave Cridland, Isode

Is this a different Dave Cridland?

For those who have not read through the book it talks about how to implement XMPP-based protocols in JavaScript. 

Ciao
Hannes

On Mar 26, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:

> 
> On Mar 24, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Dave Cridland wrote:
> 
>> Sadly, probably very unlikely. Who's going to provide the kind of leadership we'd need to have a coherent architecture for the internet, instead of one that emerges driven by a few service providers?
> 
> I guess you are touching a much larger issue that has very little todo with the Web as such. You are essentially asking me (or the IAB) to get rid of the big players in the market place. Ideally, you want to have lots of small or medium size players but no one that dominates (like Facebook does for social networks or Twitter does for microblogging). 
> 
> Changing technical specifications will not help you to get to such a desired state. 
> 
> Ciao
> Hannes
>