Re: [apps-discuss] IETF technical plenary: the end of application protocols
Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Thu, 24 March 2011 16:48 UTC
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] IETF technical plenary: the end of application protocols
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On 3/24/11 8:52 AM, Pete Resnick wrote: > On 3/24/11 3:45 AM, Scott Brim wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 23:09, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im >> <mailto:stpeter@stpeter.im>> wrote: >> > I think Peter is on to something. It is I think more about the herd > instinct, if not a more hierarchical instinct. We don't seem to like > anarchy. Speak for yourself. ;-) > We like someone "in charge" to take care of things. Up to a point. Humans are complicated creatures. We like hierarchy and centralization up to a point. When we feel that those "above" us are getting uppity and corrupt and abusive, we just might turn to something less hierarchical and centralized. Given recent events in certain countries, where those high up in the societal stack decided to simply turn off Internet access for the rebellious rabble, I rather think we might see increasing demand for technologies that route around centralized service providers (and even things like DNS) as damage. Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/
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