Re: So, where to repeat?

joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> Fri, 10 August 2012 20:58 UTC

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On 8/10/12 9:30 AM, Tim Bray wrote:
> Frankfurt as the Minneapolis of Europe: central, well-connected, cold,
> unglamorous.  -T
Also home of the ECB and the Bundesbank which shows when you try to book 
a large event into the big hotels near the hauptbahnhof.

"The why have we not met in this large city which I think is more 
appropriate then some of our others choices" aspect of this thrice 
annual discussion seems a bit played out.
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Geoff Mulligan <geoff@proto6.com> wrote:
>> On 08/09/2012 09:17 AM, Yoav Nir wrote:
>>> On Aug 9, 2012, at 6:07 PM, Dave Crocker wrote:
>>>
>>>> offlist.
>>> Not so much
>>>
>>>> Geoff,
>>>>
>>>> Frankfurt is a city in Germany.  I believe the IETF has never been there.
>>> Two more tidbits:
>>>    - It's a huge aviation hub. There are direct flights from everywhere,
>>> similar to CDG, Heathrow, or Schiphol
>>>    - Unlike Paris, London and Amsterdam, it's not a great tourist
>>> attraction, so conceivably it would be cheaper.
>> I've found it relatively inexpensive, clean and very easy to get to.
>>>
>>>> Other than those two tidbits about it, I've no idea what is to be
>>>> accomplished by someone's randomly throwing out the names of cities for
>>>> a discussion like this, especially when threads like these always have a
>>>> great deal of trouble staying focused on the /principle/ rather than
>>>> haggling the details.
>>> The principle would be to go to aviation hubs so as to minimize the
>>> collective pain. Most people from the US going to Prague, would have a
>>> connection in Frankfurt, so a meeting in Frankfurt would reduce the amount
>>> of flights.
>> This is why I threw out a "not so random" city name - Frankfurt.
>>>
>>> Yoav
>>>
>>>> On 8/8/2012 12:24 PM, Geoff Mulligan wrote:
>>>>> Frankfurt?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 8, 2012, at 12:49 PM, Dave Crocker <dcrocker@bbiw.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/8/2012 11:46 AM, Geoff Mulligan wrote:
>>>>>>> So then why not consider, London, Paris (not the Concorde Lafayette),
>>>>>>> Frankfurt, Amsterdam?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> shockingly, amsterdam can't handle the ietf.  wrong mix of resources.
>>>>>> really.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> paris appears to have broad crime and work-ethic patterns that also are
>>>>>> problematic, not just at the concorde.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to be clear: i'm speaking for myself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> d/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dave Crocker
>>>>>> Brandenburg InternetWorking
>>>>>> bbiw.net
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>    Dave Crocker
>>>>    Brandenburg InternetWorking
>>>>    bbiw.net
>>>>
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