RE: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management granularity)

["Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)" <[e-mail]>]

Why not consider Istanbul? It's another nice harbor city.

Has a series of world class hotels like Grand Hyatt, Hilton,
InterContinental, Radisson Blu but also less expensive hotels, close to
each other.

Cheers, 
Mehmet 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf
Of ext Geoff
> Mulligan
> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:47 PM
> To: Ole Jacobsen
> Cc: Richard Shockey; [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management granularity)
> 
> So then why not consider, London, Paris (not the Concorde Lafayette),
Frankfurt,
> Amsterdam?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Ole Jacobsen <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> >
> > You said about Prague:
> >
> > "...[do] folks who live outside of that region not care about the
> > additional hop of travel to get to it?"
> >
> > This gets cited often, and I don't really understand why. There are
> > VERY few European cities that are reachable directly from the US (or
> > Asia for that matter). Most require transiting some kind of major
hub
> > (London, Paris, Frankfurt, Amsterdam to name a few). There will
always
> > be exceptions, I am sure you can get to Stockholm directly from the
US
> > East Coast, but not from the West Coast. I am sure a very large
> > percentage of the IETF attendees from the US went through London or
> > Frankfurt (or a small number of alternatives) to get to Stockholm on
> > the two occasions when we met there.
> >
> > Since I travel to Norway on a more or less regular basis, I am used
to
> > (and quite happy to) go through Frankfurt or London, it's just a
fact
> > of life especially if you factor in the "preferred carrier"
(personal
> > or corporate). Prague may be an "extra hop," but depending on
> > schedules you might well get to your destination (hotel) just as
> > quickly as you would for getting from CDG to central Paris or LHR to
> > central London.
> >
> > If we restrict European cities to the ones with direct flight
> > connections from other continents, we're really limiting the
choices.
> > Let's be a little more realistic and consider actual travel "pain"
> > from the top hubs in Europe, assuming we can't (always) meet in
those
> > places.
> >
> > I do understand that the extra hop does add some cost, which is why
> > I always consider trains as a reasonable alternative, albeit not a
> > particularly fast one. For example, the cost for a First Class train
> > ticket from Frankfurt to Prague was 98 Euros. I am not suggesting
> > that this is always going to be a reasonable alternative, and I am
> > worried that the mere mention of "train" on this list may result in
> > a flame war, but still...
> >
> > Ole
> >
> >
> >
> > Ole J. Jacobsen
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> >
> >