Re: draft-bourbaki-6man-classless-ipv6-00

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Fri, 16 June 2017 22:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: draft-bourbaki-6man-classless-ipv6-00
To: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@boeing.com>, Philip Homburg <pch-ipv6-ietf-4@u-1.phicoh.com>, "ipv6@ietf.org" <ipv6@ietf.org>
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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On 17/06/2017 07:14, Manfredi, Albert E wrote:
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> From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Philip Homburg
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>> The most contentious point in draft-bourbaki-6man-classless-ipv6-00
>> is that it tries to change the IID length used for SLAAC.

I find this allegation hard to reconcile with the following sentence
in the Recommendations section of the draft:

"But operationally we recommend,
barring strong considerations to the contrary, using 64-bits for
SLAAC..."

> That should hardly be contentious, on technical grounds, because the problem is not difficult to solve. 

Most problems can be solved as a "small matter of programming", but given
that the deployed base of IPv6, which assumes /64 for SLAAC, is now much
larger** than the whole Internet was when the /64 boundary was defined,
I really don't think that is going to happen for any existing technology.

This draft is not actually about *changing* /64. It's about setting the
the right balance between scenarios where /64 is appropriate and those
where it isn't, given that routing is already defined to handle any
prefix length.

> It might be contentious only tangentially, in the sense that it makes variable prefix lengths so easy to contend with?

I don't understand that sentence.

** I haven't worked out the ratio, but in any case it's apparent that
the operational IPv6 network is already much bigger than the IPv4
network was when CIDR & BGP4 were deployed in 1993. We'd be playing
with fire to change anything fundamental for the existing deployment.

   Brian

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