Re: draft-bourbaki-6man-classless-ipv6-00

Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> Fri, 02 June 2017 14:34 UTC

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From: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 23:33:41 +0900
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Subject: Re: draft-bourbaki-6man-classless-ipv6-00
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Do not support. A few reasons:

   - The /64 boundary is beneficial for many reasons. See RFC 7421 and RFC
   7934.
   - The document lists no compelling use cases of what you can do with
   less than 2^64 addresses per link than you can't do with a 2^64 addresses
   per link.
   - The only technical motivation in this draft seems to be "classful
   addressing was a bad idea in IPv4". That's not a valid argument in IPv6
   because the address space is completely different. A /64 is *four billion
   times* bigger than the IPv4 internet. That's 10,000 times more than the
   difference between a grain of sand and the whole planet we live on. Such a
   huge scaling difference pretty much invalidates any argument that solutions
   that worked well in IPv4 will work well in IPv6.
   - Routing on any prefix length is already required by the standards -
   see BCP 198.

Please stop trying to make IPv6 be the same as IPv4. That will take away
our ability to make the Internet better once IPv4 is gone.

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 11:12 PM, Peter Hessler <phessler@theapt.org> wrote:

> Support
>
> On 2017 Jun 02 (Fri) at 16:11:12 +0200 (+0200), Job Snijders wrote:
> :Hi Working Group,
> :
> :Please review the below.
> :
> :Kind regards,
> :
> :Job
> :
> :----- Forwarded message from internet-drafts@ietf.org -----
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> :Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 04:25:28 -0700
> :From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
> :To: Job Snijders <job@ntt.net>, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, Christopher
> Morrow <morrowc@google.com>,
> :       Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>, Nick Hilliard <nick@inex.ie>,
> Geoff Huston
> :       <gih@apnic.net>, Brian Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>,
> Chris Morrow
> :       <morrowc@google.com>
> :Subject: New Version Notification for draft-bourbaki-6man-classless-
> ipv6-00.txt
> :
> :
> :A new version of I-D, draft-bourbaki-6man-classless-ipv6-00.txt
> :has been successfully submitted by Randy Bush and posted to the
> :IETF repository.
> :
> :Name:          draft-bourbaki-6man-classless-ipv6
> :Revision:      00
> :Title:         IPv6 is Classless
> :Document date: 2017-05-22
> :Group:         Individual Submission
> :Pages:         7
> :URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bourbaki-6man-
> classless-ipv6-00.txt
> :Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bourbaki-6man-
> classless-ipv6/
> :Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/
> draft-bourbaki-6man-classless-ipv6-00
> :Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/
> doc/html/draft-bourbaki-6man-classless-ipv6-00
> :
> :
> :Abstract:
> :   Over the history of IPv6, various classful address models have been
> :   proposed, none of which has withstood the test of time.  The last
> :   remnant of IPv6 classful addressing is a rigid network interface
> :   identifier boundary at /64.  This document removes the fixed position
> :   of that boundary for interface addressing.
> :
> :
> :
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