Re: draft-bourbaki-6man-classless-ipv6-00

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Mon, 05 June 2017 22:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: draft-bourbaki-6man-classless-ipv6-00
To: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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On 05/06/2017 19:45, Lorenzo Colitti wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Brian E Carpenter <
> brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> None of that is the point. The point is to establish
>> that routing is classless
> 
> 
> Routing is already classless because BCP 198.
> 
> 
>> and /64 is a parameter of specific addressing schemes.
>>
> 
> It *is* a parameter. The parameter's value is 64 for all unicast addresses
> except those starting with 000.

The parameter's *current* value, yes. But should we really be fixing
the value of the parameter once and for all in the addressing architecture?
Why don't we fix it in each IPv6-over-foo, which is what the SLAAC design
assumes?

   Brian

    Brian