Re: draft-bourbaki-6man-classless-ipv6-00

sthaug@nethelp.no Sat, 10 June 2017 21:15 UTC

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I agree with the general comments about confusing classic IPv4 subnet
prefix(mask) terminology with IIDs and on-link prefixes for IPv6.

> The IID is only used to generate an address, once the address has been
> generated the IID and its length are actually irrelevant, the address
> itself is 128 bits long, and only the on-link prefix and length is relevant
> in determining locality.

An explicit statement that IID is only relevant for SLAAC would be
very welcome.

> So, I think if we stop using subnet prefix vocabulary with IPv6, we might
> find consensus and resolve this conflict.

That may well work for the people on this list. Unfortunately, I'm not
optimistic about ACME Company's Joe network manager understanding it.

Steinar Haug, AS2116