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Re: [Ltru] Consensus call: extlang

Martin Duerst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Tue, 27 May 2008 01:52 UTC

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At 14:46 08/05/26, Randy Presuhn wrote:
>Hi -
>
>> From: "Mark Davis" <mark.davis@icu-project.org>
>> To: "Randy Presuhn" <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com>
>> Cc: "LTRU Working Group" <ltru@ietf.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 9:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ltru] Consensus call: extlang
>>
>> This is crazy; we do not have consensus to introduce a major architectural
>> change from RFC4646.
>...
>
>As I see it, the alternative, since we've been unable to
>reach closure, is to shut down the WG.  Folks interested in the
>subject could then request a new working group when they come up
>with a solution.  We're far behind schedule, and the debate, while
>excruciatingly voluminous, has produced little progress.  I'm
>ready to say "to heck with it" and recommend closure of the WG,
>as unsatisfactory as I know that would be.
>
>But let's wait to see whether Martin reads the responses differently
>from how I did, or if he adds the numbers differently.


I will look into this tomorrow. Sorry for the delay.  Regrads,  Martin.


>If he comes
>to the same conclusion as I did, then you may, if you wish, appeal
>to our Area Director under RFC 2026 section 6.5.1, challenging whether
>we've provided adequate opportunity for your views to be considered,
>or claiming that this is a technical error which would put the BCP 47
>update "in significant jeopardy."
>
>Randy
>ltru co-chair
>
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