Re: [Ltru] Does 'de' really mean "only standard German"?

"Debbie Garside" <debbie@ictmarketing.co.uk> Tue, 27 May 2008 22:45 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ltru] Does 'de' really mean "only standard German"?
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Re: Version Skew. As I mentioned more than a month ago on this list, the
Ethnologue online database does not keep pace with ISO 639-3 but (according
to SIL) will be updated prior to publication of the 16th Edition.

Please remember that Ethnologue is not normative in any way.  If you want
information about ISO 639-3 go to the ISO 639-3 site. From there you can
access the linked informative data from Ethnologue whilst at the same time
being assured that the code you are viewing is up to date.

Best

Debbie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ltru-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ltru-bounces@ietf.org] On
> Behalf Of Broome, Karen
> Sent: 27 May 2008 23:30
> To: John Cowan; Gerard Meijssen
> Cc: LTRU Working Group
> Subject: Re: [Ltru] Does 'de' really mean "only standard German"?
>
> For the record, John, with all the changes that have gone
> into ISO 639-3 since it was published, I think the skew (#3)
> may be more than you think. There are also issues where
> Ethnologue is not clear, such as the Erzgebirgische ambiguity
> we stumbled on by accident.
>
> Regards,
>
> Karen
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: ltru-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ltru-bounces@ietf.org]
> On Behalf Of
> >John Cowan
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 2:16 PM
> >To: Gerard Meijssen
> >Cc: LTRU Working Group
> >Subject: Re: [Ltru] Does 'de' really mean "only standard German"?
> >
> >Gerard Meijssen scripsit:
> >
> >> There are clear differences between Ethnologue and the ISO-639-3.
> >There are
> >> languages in Ethnologue that do not exist in the ISO-639--3 and
> >the other
> >> way round.
> >
> >Only in very minor ways.
> >
> >1) Ethnologue doesn't handle ancient or artificial languages -- the
> >sub-registrar for them is Linguist List.
> >
> >2) Macrolanguages aren't in Ethnologue either.
> >
> >3) There may be some version skew where 639-3 has been updated but
> >Ethnologue has not.
> >
> >--
> >John Cowan  cowan@ccil.org  http://ccil.org/~cowan In
> computer science,
> >we stand on each other's feet.
> >        --Brian K. Reid
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