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"FOSSATI, Thomas (Thomas)" <thomas.fossati@alcatel-lucent.com> Fri, 24 July 2015 09:20 UTC

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From: "FOSSATI, Thomas (Thomas)" <thomas.fossati@alcatel-lucent.com>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, "Soininen, Jonne (Nokia - FI/Espoo)" <jonne.soininen@nokia.com>, "ext Rosen, Brian" <Brian.Rosen@neustar.biz>, Jose Saldana <jsaldana@unizar.es>, "93attendees@ietf.org" <93attendees@ietf.org>
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On 24/07/2015 11:10, "93attendees on behalf of Brian E Carpenter"
<93attendees-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
wrote:
>Hi Jonne,
>
>On 24/07/2015 21:02, Soininen, Jonne (Nokia - FI/Espoo) wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 24/07/15 11:47, "93attendees on behalf of ext Rosen, Brian"
>> <93attendees-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of Brian.Rosen@neustar.biz>
>>wrote:
>> 
>>> There is a discussion on this over on Facebook.
>>>
>>> I¹ll repeat my message on this:
>>> I expressed my dismay to the secretariat, who were very unhappy about
>>>the
>>> situation.  The company employing these women was associated with our
>>> host, cz.nic.  This company was told by the secretariat, multiple
>>>times,
>>> that it would not be a good idea to have the women at the event.  The
>>> secretariat did not feel that they could outright forbid them to.
>> 
>> It seems that this a case where IETF, secretariat or anybody associated
>>to
>> the IETF has not done anything wrong. The proper concerns have be taken
>>up
>> with the company doing this before the meeting. So, this is really just
>> shame on the company itself and should be concerned as very poor
>>judgement
>> from their part.
>
>That's true, but it suggests to me that there should be written terms
>and conditions for the participating companies that make it clear that
>this sort of thing is unacceptable, and give the Secretariat the power
>to throw them out (in real time if necessary).

+1

https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/ietf-anti-harassment-policy.html is
the only written thing we seem to have in that space, but it doesn't
really cover the specific situation.

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