Re: [93attendees] I was wondering...
Василий Долматов <vdolmatov@gmail.com> Fri, 24 July 2015 21:58 UTC
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From: Василий Долматов <vdolmatov@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [93attendees] I was wondering...
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пятница, 24 июля 2015 г. пользователь Kathleen Moriarty написал: > Pat, > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 24, 2015, at 6:49 PM, Pat (Patricia) Thaler <pthaler@broadcom.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pthaler@broadcom.com');>> wrote: > > I was responding to earlier posts suggesting a dress code as a way to do > this and even pointing to an example dress code from a conference which had > list of unacceptable clothing including: > > · Tops displaying excessive cleavage; > > · Tank tops, halter tops, camisole tops or tube tops; > > · Miniskirts or minidresses; > > · Shorts. > > > This snippet appears to have been taken out of context. It was part of a > larger policy at trade shows for booth staff to prevent such issues. This > was not meant as a suggestion for an IETF dress code. It was to show > precedent. > > Kathleen > > I agreed with your post which was consistent with my suggestion that, > rather than a dress code, we should have a policy that emphasizes that > Bits and Bytes booths are for technical displays and discussions and that > booth staff are expected to be technical and able to discuss the displays. > > > > Pat > > > > *From:* Fred Baker (fred) [mailto:fred@cisco.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','fred@cisco.com');>] > *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2015 9:41 AM > *To:* Pat (Patricia) Thaler > *Cc:* Andy Bierman; Stephane Bortzmeyer; Howard, Lee; 93attendees@ietf.org > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','93attendees@ietf.org');> > *Subject:* Re: [93attendees] I was wondering... > > > > > > On Jul 24, 2015, at 6:38 PM, Pat (Patricia) Thaler <pthaler@broadcom.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pthaler@broadcom.com');>> wrote: > > > > I’m uncomfortable with implementing a dress code as a way to deal with > this. Some of our attendees wear shorts. I’d hate to see staff running > around with rulers to decide that shorts or skirts are too short, etc. > > > > I am not asking for a dress code. I merely think that an IETF meeting is > not a sales event, and shouldn't be operated as one. > > It is an attempt to enforce a dress code. I am wearing all the time shoes, trousers and sleeve shirts and no ties. Because I feel ie convenient for me. I normally communicate with people who wears T-shirts, shorts and sandals, and even do not notice their clothes, while we have _real_ topics to discuss and reasons to communicate. I normally can communicates with women who wears neatly carved dress, as well as with women, who wears something like used underwear. While we have _real_ topics to discuss and reasons to communicate. Clothes means nothing. IETF goes for brains. If some persons with university degrees want to wear used underwear only, then other persons with university degree should have a right to wear mini-skirts. I am greatly disappointed with all this fuss, which means from my point of view, that there are some unsufficient load with the current brain extensive work for IETF participants, that they raise clothes questions and waste so much time and effort for that. I could discuss SDN switch architecture even with a nude girl (being bothered for her not to get cold, though ;) ) > > _______________________________________________ > 93attendees mailing list > 93attendees@ietf.org > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','93attendees@ietf.org');> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/93attendees > >
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