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Re: [93attendees] I was wondering...

Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Fri, 24 July 2015 17:02 UTC

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From: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>
To: Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr>
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Subject: Re: [93attendees] I was wondering...
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Andy,

You raise a great point. See below.


On July 24, 2015 4:00:51 PM Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> wrote:

>
> Although I agree this incident was inappropriate for an IETF,

I too completely agree.

> I wonder how much is the IETF's own fault.

I personally think this is an important point.  While the ietf  hosts the 
event and expect our norms and values to be followed, we are guests in - at 
least most of us - a foreign country with local laws, customs and norms.

>  If the bits&bytes
> is advertised to vendors as a trade show, and they are charged money
> (more than a trade show), then the IETF should not be shocked
> if a vendor thinks their normal trade show procedures are
> appropriate for this venue.  The IETF should made sure the
> contract with the vendor is clear wrt/ the dress code.
>

And beyond contracts it is also, and only in my personal option, incumbent 
on us as a community to work with the hosts and demonstrators to ensure 
that their behavior is ietf culturally appropriate.

Lou
> ...

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