Re: [93attendees] I was wondering...

[Andy Bierman <[e-mail]>]

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Lou Berger <[e-mail]> wrote:

>  Andy,
>
> You raise a great point. See below.
>
> On July 24, 2015 4:00:51 PM Andy Bierman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Although I agree this incident was inappropriate for an IETF,
>
> I too completely agree.
>
> > I wonder how much is the IETF's own fault.
>
> I personally think this is an important point.  While the ietf  hosts the
> event and expect our norms and values to be followed, we are guests in - at
> least most of us - a foreign country with local laws, customs and norms.
>
> >  If the bits&bytes
> > is advertised to vendors as a trade show, and they are charged money
> > (more than a trade show), then the IETF should not be shocked
> > if a vendor thinks their normal trade show procedures are
> > appropriate for this venue.  The IETF should made sure the
> > contract with the vendor is clear wrt/ the dress code.
> >
>
> And beyond contracts it is also, and only in my personal option, incumbent
> on us as a community to work with the hosts and demonstrators to ensure
> that their behavior is ietf culturally appropriate.
>


yes -- that was my point.
I don't really blame the company for confusing bits & bytes with a trade
show,
since that is what the IETF is selling them.  But in this case they seemed
confused on the trade. (Thought I was at the LA Auto Show at first ;-)



>  Lou
> > ...
>

Andy