Re: [93attendees] thanks for the bnb

[Alexandre PETRESCU <[e-mail]>]

Yes,

The BnB event was very good for IETF overall.  The organized space was 
larger than at earlier bnbs, the topics were more various, and in close 
relation with topics in WGs.  Thanks for having organized it.

Alex

Le 26/07/2015 18:01, Margaret Cullen a écrit :
> Ondrej,
>
> Thank you very much for taking responsibility for this choice, and for your apology.  I think that at least half of the fault for this issue lies with the IETF -- we did not do a good job of communicating with the participating companies about the nature of the Bits & Bites event. Hopefully this can be a learning experience for all of us, and we will succeed in avoiding this sort of thing in the future.
>
> I don't believe that anyone who is concerned about the appropriateness of this activity at the IETF has anything against the women, themselves.  We know they were simply doing a job that is considered appropriate in some settings.  We find it inappropriate for this sort of thing to happen at the IETF, which is an engineering conference not a trade show.  It is important that we create a professional environment at the IETF that is comfortable for all of our attendees.
>
> Your company did a wonderful job of hosting our meeting, especially the social event.  The food and drink at the social event were tasty and plentiful, and the entertainment was very well-targetted, fun and appropriate.  Despite this issue at Bits & Bites, I left Prague with a very favorable view of your company and your beautiful city.  I also greatly appreciate your support of the IETF.
>
> Margaret
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 24, 2015, at 5:35 AM, Ondrej Filip <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>> First of all let me to apologize everybody who felt offended. I am
>> really sorry for that we did something unfortunate and as a CEO of the
>> company I take the full responsibility.
>>
>> Please, let me explain the background. Those ladies have been working
>> with CZ.NIC for a longer time although not as full time employees.
>> But I am telling this to explain that they we have not employed them
>> just for the purpose of this event. Both have university degrees
>> although not a technical background in IETF related stuff. But they
>> know our company very well.
>>
>> Again, I fully understand the point and I apologize for our lack of
>> sensitivity. I am very sorry.
>>
>> 		Ondrej Filip
>>
>>
>>
>> On 24.7.2015 10:31, Jose Saldana wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> In my opinion, the bits&bytes booth with the young ladies in short skirts, etc. was a bit... let's say ... disrespectful.
>>>
>>> I mean, using women just for "decorative" purposes is something I don't like. It is common in trade fairs, sports events, etc. But the IETF should avoid it (IMHO).
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Jose
>>>
>>> Sent from my smartphone
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