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Re: Agenda Denial Was: tone policing

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Tue, 10 September 2019 18:21 UTC

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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
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Subject: Re: Agenda Denial Was: tone policing
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 14:21:54 -0400
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Cc: Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
To: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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On Sep 10, 2019, at 2:05 PM, Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> wrote:
>> Tone policing not exactly unknown in IETF but the strategy of poisoning a debate by being disruptive is much more common.
> So is accusing well-intended people of bad intention.
> 
This is an example of tone-policing as a form of agenda denial.  Because Phil used the term “poisoning,” this gave Keith an opportunity to respond to what Phil had said as if it were an accusation, and not merely a factual observation.  And so now we are talking about Phil attacking Keith, instead of talking about how to have good discussions in the IETF.

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