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Re: tone policing

"Patrik Fältström " <paf@frobbit.se> Tue, 03 September 2019 21:24 UTC

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From: Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se>
To: Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org>
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Subject: Re: tone policing
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2019 23:24:02 +0200
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On 3 Sep 2019, at 19:42, Dan Harkins wrote:

>   If you get it, if you know it wasn't meant literally, and if you know it was included because
> he thought it sounded witty then this is about tone. You are objecting to _how_ he made what you
> admit was, and was intended to be, a joke.

We have many non-native-english-speaking-persons reading what people write on this list (including myself). We have to be VERY careful when walking down the path of discussing what the interpretation of actually written words mean in the context they are written.

Just be careful...please...

   Patrik

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