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Re: Evolving Documents (nee "Living Documents") side meeting at IETF105.)

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Fri, 19 July 2019 02:31 UTC

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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
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Subject: Re: Evolving Documents (nee "Living Documents") side meeting at IETF105.)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 22:31:14 -0400
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Cc: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Job Snijders <job@instituut.net>, ietf@ietf.org
To: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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On Jul 18, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> wrote:
>  I’ve lost count of the number of WGs I’ve seen for which I did understand what they were doing, and did understand how they could harm other interests.

This is the cognitive bias to which I was referring.   You think you know better than they do; indeed, you are sure of it.  Quite possibly some of the time you are correct, but I’ve known you for a long time, and I’ve seen you be utterly sure of yourself when you were clearly wrong.   I’m sure you’ve seen me do it too.

Yes, we definitely need to know how to manage this, and yes, we currently do it badly.

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