Re: On XML and $EDITORs (Re: Things that used to be clear (was ...)) "Living Documents") side meeting at IETF105.)

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Thu, 11 July 2019 09:24 UTC

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Subject: Re: On XML and $EDITORs (Re: Things that used to be clear (was ...)) "Living Documents") side meeting at IETF105.)
To: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, ietf@ietf.org
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From: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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On 7/11/19 4:32 AM, Julian Reschke wrote:

> On 10.07.2019 18:52, Keith Moore wrote:
>> On 7/10/19 12:31 PM, Nico Williams wrote:
>>
>>>> would be nice if there were a standard format we could use, but I
>>> XML is standard;
>>
>> Ah.  That explains why every time I try to write a new RFC, the required
>> format has changed in an incompatible way.
>> ...
>
> Example?

It has been long enough that I don't remember the details.   Of course 
it wasn't XML itself that had changed, it was the DTD and/or the 
requirements for boilerplate and/or the magic incantations required to 
get references to work.

It's a bit like saying that SMTP is a standard, but if you actually want 
to be able to send outgoing mail without it getting blocked by random 
spam filters there is a set of magic and arbitrary things that you have 
to do to appease the mail gods.   I suspect part of it involves parts of 
a walrus and must be done at midnight on a full moon.

Keith