Re: Evolving Documents (nee "Living Documents") side meeting at IETF105.)

Job Snijders <job@ntt.net> Fri, 19 July 2019 04:15 UTC

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From: Job Snijders <job@ntt.net>
To: "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>
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Subject: Re: Evolving Documents (nee "Living Documents") side meeting at IETF105.)
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On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:58:06PM -0400, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
> (Supporting Keith on this.)
> 
> One of the key benefits of IETF meetings is cross-area review.  One of
> the key reasons for having WG last call is the observed need for
> review outside the working group.  One of the observation from many
> such reviews is that it is amazing how much a working group can miss
> while getting its core stuff right.  Yes, this also means that
> periodically folks raise objections that are spurious, miss the point,
> or have been addressed already.  But the cost of not having the review
> is VErY high.
> 
> Yes, folks have suggested that the review should be lightened or
> eliminated.  So far, the community has refused to do that.  And I for
> one am very glad that is so.  In spite of having had to deal with some
> frustrating objections in many cases.

Joel,

My take on it is that the context of this conversation is not protocol
specifications or extensions, but operational guidance. What some in
this thread are advocating for is a pathway to publish an equivalent of
BCPs in a shorter timeframe than 12 to 36 months.

Kind regards,

Job