Re: [v6ops] reclassify 464XLAT as standard instead of info

Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk> Thu, 21 September 2017 08:00 UTC

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From: Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk>
To: Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>
CC: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>, "v6ops@ietf.org" <v6ops@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] reclassify 464XLAT as standard instead of info
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Hi Fred,

> On 21 Sep 2017, at 02:00, Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2017, at 8:52 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> wrote:
>> 
>>> From my perspective, there are multiple interoperable specs. We have several CLAT client implementations/vendors, from different vendors, and they work fine in the same and different operators and interoperate with different NAT64 and DNS64 vendors/implementations.
>> 
>> What I’m not sure is, because 464XLAT is basically RFC6145 (SIIT) + RFC6146 (Stateful NAT64) and also can use RFC6147 (DNS64), which are already Standards track, if we need also to move them to STD in that case, etc.
> 
> I'll repeat myself earlier. Looking at the definitions of the terms, there is no reason it can't or shouldn't be BCP, which our charter does allow us to do, and which is a one-shot standard more appropriate to the case (IMHO). If you want it to be a standardard, a BCP is a standard. Let's advance it to BCP.

I think there’s an argument for this.

But there will be people who will argue that encapsulation is the ‘best’ practice.  Is there scope for a BCP by translation and a BCP by encapsulation?  Or would the BCP say NAT64/DNS64/464XLAT is the best way to serve nodes in an IPv6-only network?

With IPv4 NAT, the IETF didn’t define specific NAT mechanisms, so we ended up with many varieties, with different properties. There’s an argument also I think to nail down one single best translation approach.

Tim