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Re: [v6ops] reclassify 464XLAT as standard instead of info

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Mon, 25 September 2017 09:57 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] reclassify 464XLAT as standard instead of info
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Erik,

I would like to ask you clarification.

Le 25/09/2017 à 11:47, Erik Kline a écrit :
> When speaking from the perspective of a client OS

What is a "client OS"?  I think OSs are both clients and servers.

> I have frequently observed and understood the phrase "IPv6-only 
> network" to mean that the link to which the client is connected only 
> provisions and forwards IPv6 packets.

I agree with this definition of "IPv6-only network".  I would stress to
also mean "no IPv4" - be it encapsulation, translation, or DNS-x-y.

> IPv4 /may/ be available to the client as a service on these 
> "IPv6-only networks" within this definition,

Yes.  But not as a "service".  I never heard about "IP as a service"
other than some people at IETF, and other than in the context of a 
particular operator.

IP is not a service.

Services are at the services layer.  APIs are services, there is remote
access service, etc.

> whether by 464xlat or VPN or by some other means.

VPN and encapsulations are also called "virtual networks".

Is the "IPv6-as-a-service" a "virtual network"?

If so, we want "IPv6 as a real network".

> But that never seems to change the implied meaning of "IPv6-only
> network" in these contexts.

Depends who you ask.

Alex

> 
> Just an observation.
>

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