Re: [v6ops] reclassify 464XLAT as standard instead of info

Erik Kline <ek@google.com> Fri, 22 September 2017 07:09 UTC

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From: Erik Kline <ek@google.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 16:09:10 +0900
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] reclassify 464XLAT as standard instead of info
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On 22 September 2017 at 16:07, Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:
>
> In message <CAKD1Yr13ijKCB_71_2vMyGurc3-kSraLJycGxZwf121tjp8u1Q@mail.gmail.com>, Lorenzo Colitti writes:
>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Because 464XLAT is almost always deployed with DNS64 (there are
>> > potentially other ways to learn the address mappings):
>> >
>> > YOU DO NOT KNOW IF THE IPV6 CONNECTION YOU ARE MAKING IS BEING
>> > TERMINATED ON A IPV6 NODE.
>> >
>>
>> Why don't you? All you need to do is compare the destination address with
>> the NAT64 prefix. If it's in that prefix, then it's an IPv4 node, otherwise
>> it's an IPv6 node.
>
> Thank you for proving my point.
>
> IPv6 applications need to add code to WORKAROUND breakages caused
> by NAT64 the way they need add WORKAROUNDS for the NAT breakages
> even if they are not using NAT64 or NAT respectively.  The cancer
> that is NAT64 needs to be eradicated.

Sounds more like the cancer that is IPv4 is what needs eradicating...