Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service

[Donald Eastlake <[e-mail]>]

Hi,

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 1:02 PM John Levine <[e-mail]> wrote:
> In article <[e-mail]> you write:
> >On 11/11/20 10:40 PM, Roman Danyliw wrote:
> >
> >> As noted in the proposal, ALL data is available at least two other ways (https://www.ietf.org/ietf-ftp  or rsync).  By request
> >volume, HTTPS is massively preferred (FTP is 0.2% of HTTPS document traffic, and this is undercounting HTTPS usage) by the vast
> >majority of users.  If the bulk download semantics are desired, to include incremental updates with no code required, then rsync is
> >the best choice.  Do you have a user community in mind that can use FTP, but not HTTPS or rsync that we need to consider?
> >
> >rsync is not nearly as widely supported as FTP.   And while rsync works
> >okay for mirroring, I've never seen it used for remote file access.
>
> This makes no sense. What computers do you believe that people use in
> 2020 that support FTP but not rsync? And if that were true, why do we
> see orders of magnitude more rsync traffic than FTP?
>
> I use a Mac laptop which, based on what I've seen at IETF meetings, is
> a fairly popular choice.  It has rsync as part of the base system, and
> no FTP client other than as part of curl, which of course also supports
> http and https.

It does have sftp :-)

Thanks,
Donald
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> R's,
> John