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Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Thu, 26 November 2020 02:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service
To: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>, ietf@ietf.org
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From: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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On 11/25/20 9:17 PM, John Levine wrote:

>
> To point out the obvious, the IETF's staff and financial resources are
> not infinite. Based on Roman's numbers, we seem to be talking about a
> dozen FTP users and at least thousands if not tens of thousands of
> rsync and https users.

As I've said earlier, I think those numbers are being misinterpreted.

Also, it's now obvious that the IETF FTP server is poorly configured 
since it's timing out the control connection after 20 seconds.   That's 
simply unreasonable.   If usage is down because the server is 
misconfigured, that's hardly surprising, but it doesn't mean the server 
wouldn't be used more if it were fixed.

>   I find arguments that we should ignore the
> numbers because a few individuals think they might be inconvenienced
> unpersuasive.
>
> The previous message about technical debt summed up the issue pretty well.

No, that's just another example of ageist prejudice.

Keith

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