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Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service

Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Wed, 02 December 2020 06:26 UTC

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From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2020 01:26:45 -0500
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Subject: Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service
To: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
Cc: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>, IETF Discussion Mailing List <ietf@ietf.org>
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Everyone using Windows 10 should install Windows Terminal. It is a vast
improvement on the old terminal library and it has some really unique and
obvious features.

You have tabs for a start. So you can have three tabs for three different
directories you are working on.

You can choose the command shell. So I currently have a CMD prompt, a
powershell shell and an Ubuntu shell in different tabs. There are a handful
of tools that I don't have on Windows because my policy is to keep machines
as close as possible to stock and it wasn't much hassle to just ssh to the
linux box. Now I can just open a new ubuntu tab to use dig or whatever.

You can even specify your own shell environment.


On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 10:10 PM Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 09:37:33PM -0500, Keith Moore wrote:
> > On 12/1/20 8:45 PM, Greg Skinner wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > AFAIK, ftp client functionality is available in Catalina and later
> > > MacOS releases through the Zftp Function System
> > > <https://www.csse.uwa.edu.au/programming/linux/zsh-doc/zsh_24.html>.
> > >  It also may be available depending upon which Perl, Python, or Tcl
> > > packages are installed.
> >
> > There are also multiple Mac ftp clients available through Homebrew.   (I
> > can't imagine having a MacOS box without Homebrew, just like I can't
>
> I can.  (My personal mac doesn't have homebrew, or fink, or macports; just
> a small grouping of critical third-party software compiled by hand, and
> VMWare Fusion for doing more complicated things.)
>
> > imagine having a Windows box without cygwin.)
>
> My latest PC I kept Windows 10 on for a couple weeks before installing
> Debian, and tried out the windows subsystem for linux.  It was actually
> pretty usable -- the main annoyance was that cmd.exe is a lousy terminal
> emulator.  But I'm told that there are other options available.  I don't
> think I would need to have cygwin anymore in order to be able to do my
> normal work, were I somehow compelled to use a windows machine full time.
>
>
> I hope we can all try to keep in mind that others' workflows may well
> differ from our own, and that is (usually) okay.  (That is, to some extent,
> a key theme of this entire long thread.)
>
> -Ben
>
>

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