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Re: Harassment, abuse, accountability. and IETF mailing lists

Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> Mon, 13 June 2022 17:31 UTC

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From: Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 10:31:06 -0700
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Subject: Re: Harassment, abuse, accountability. and IETF mailing lists
To: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
Cc: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>, IETF discussion list <ietf@ietf.org>
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On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 10:19 AM Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
wrote:

> I am not sure that I agree.   I can certainly see how what you describe
> could happen.  But the Politeness Police have themselves discouraged
> participation in IETF, at least in part because some of them were every
> bit as arrogant and demeaning as your example statement above, and
> worse, AND they had the backing of the organizational leaders.
>

What we have is at best anecdata, but I strongly disagree.  I have personal
experience with wonderful people who have walked away saying some variation
on "all those pissy greybeards waiting to pounce".  Don't personally know
anyone who (a) has walked away because of the "politeness police" and (b)
is regretted.

Be kind. It doesn’t hurt.


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