Re: Harassment, abuse, accountability. and IETF mailing lists

[S Moonesamy <[e-mail]>]

Hi Carsten,
At 03:38 AM 03-06-2022, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>(One problem with such a broad recommendation is that a newcomer 
>will have no way to know who in the IETF organization colludes with 
>whom.  We may think it is a job requirement for an AD to be able to 
>act like an ombudsman, but how does the newcomer know that.)

I trimmed the Cc.

The above comment was in response to a recommendation for the person 
to contact an Area Director [1] or the entire Internet Engineering 
Steering Group if that person felt abused or harassed.  One of the 
points which was lost in the discussion was about readily-available 
information.

There was a URL on the "home page" of the IETF web site to point to 
whom to contact.  The fact that the URL is no longer there means that 
the information is no longer important enough.  The consequence is 
that a person who is not familiar with the IETF may have some 
difficultly finding the appropriate contact to discuss the matter with.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy

1. The qualifications and operating practices of the ombudsperson are 
different from the qualifications and operating practices of an Area Director.