Re: [73attendees] Attendance by country

[Scott Brim <[e-mail]>]

Excerpts from Iljitsch van Beijnum at 17:30:27 +0100 on Thu 4 Dec
2008:
> On 4 dec 2008, at 17:24, Scott Brim wrote:
> 
> > Some WGs are very good at resolving issues via mail.  Others --
> > and other issues -- just don't work that way.  We need to figure
> > out how to make it possible for more issues to be resolved in more
> > WGs before without having to get together in person.  We've done
> > this several times in the past but now we *must* take the next
> > step, we have no choice.
> 
> We don't?

I don't know about you but for me there simply isn't enough time
during IETF week to have all the meetings I need to have in order to
make progress.  There is so much going on right on.

> > There are audio conference tools
> 
> Yes, all the tediousness of listening to people with hard to
> understand accents or idiom at times you're normally asleep without
> getting to enjoy the airline food... I don't think this works for
> large groups.

There are text-based tools as well.  Real-time text generally favors
people who type fast in the language of the meeting, so they can't be
used all the time.  (btw I'm not talking about jabber, which is just
free form talk.)

> The trouble is that it's often hard to get feedback on something
> without presenting it in a meeting. If we could get some incentives
> happening for reviewing other people's work, we wouldn't have to
> present all this stuff.
> 
> For instance: some kind of official recognition that can go on a CV
> or something. Or review swapping: review three drafts and we'll get
> two quality reviews for yours, with some kind of reputation system
> for review quality.

The kind of reviews you want are the ones from well-informed,
deep-thinking people.  They are in high demand (like you).  They don't
need credit, they need more time.  Review swapping might work.  I
suspect that making it _easier_ for them to contribute would be even
better.  These days, written comments need to be substantive in order
to be acceptable, and that takes time.
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