Re: [73attendees] Attendance by country

"Richard Barnes" <richard.barnes@gmail.com> Tue, 02 December 2008 21:00 UTC

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From: Richard Barnes <richard.barnes@gmail.com>
To: Dale Worley <dworley@nortel.com>
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Dale,

Actually, there is a noticeable difference between CN and others: If
you sub-divide those 79 registrations according to who paid, you get
the following breakdown:
   Yes: 31  (39%)
   No: 48  (61%)

For contrast, the breakdown for the US is as follows:
   Yes: 484 (91%)
   No: 22 (4%)
   Comp: 25 (4%)

If you rank countries by the percentage of attendees that are unpaid,
then most countries (50 of 66) have fewer than 10% unpaid.  The
remaining 16 countries all have >50% unpaid; they are as follows:
UG, TN, SN, PH, ID, GH, GG, DZ, DO, CI, AF, IN, CG, BD, CN, AR
Of these, the leaders by far in GDP, population, and overall
registration are CN and IN.

Assuming that those who didn't pay were those unable to attend, these
data could indicate a notable difference between these groups.  In
addition, there may also be underreported problems for Indians as
well.

--Richard


On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Dale Worley <dworley@nortel.com> wrote:
> I've calculated these figures from the IETF web site:
>
>
> Rank    Country         Registered      % of total              cum. %
> of total
>
>  1      US              531             0.477948                0.477948
>  2      JP              97              0.0873087               0.565257
>  3      CN              79              0.0711071               0.636364
>  4      DE              51              0.0459046               0.682268
>  5      FR              39              0.0351035               0.717372
>  6      GB              30              0.0270027               0.744374
>  7      SE              29              0.0261026               0.770477
>  8      CA              29              0.0261026               0.79658
>  9      FI              28              0.0252025               0.821782
> 10      KR              22              0.019802                0.841584
> 11      NL              16              0.0144014               0.855986
> 12      IT              16              0.0144014               0.870387
> 13      IN              13              0.0117012               0.882088
> 14      IL              12              0.0108011               0.892889
> 15      AU              11              0.00990099              0.90279
>
> Taken from https://www.ietf.org/registration/attendance.py
>
>
> 15 countries account for 90% of attendance (or rather, registration).
>
> Based on GDP, the US should have about 33% of attendance, so the
> observed 47% is not too much above expectation.
>
> Seeing that China is 3rd on the list, with 7% of attendance, if there
> are particular visa problems regarding China, some attention should be
> paid to it.
>
> Dale
>
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