Re: [73attendees] Attendance by country

I suspect the difference between Mary's and Dean's positions has a lot  
to do with whether one is getting reimbursed for expenses. Although I  
personally do get reimbursed (at the moment, anyway), I think we  
should try very hard to avoid making choices that discourage  
contribution from people who don't have that advantage.

We have the fee discount for students, but that's only a small piece  
of the total cost--and it doesn't help self-employed people, or people  
whose employers won't pay to send them to meetings.

On Dec 3, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Mary Barnes wrote:

> Again, it's a YMMV situation - my family is actually much happier to
> have me return on Saturday (after a reasonable nite's sleep) rather  
> than
> on Friday nite, where I would often arrive very late and having only  
> had
> about 16 hours of sleep over the past 5 days.
>
> Also, in terms of cost, since I spend Fri. pm/Fri nite and part of  
> Sat.
> working, I don't think the addt'l nites expense is excessive and I
> certainly wouldn't be able to do any of that if I traveled on Fri.  
> nite.
> And, I have encountered far more travel delays on those evening  
> flights
> than I typically have with a Sat. flight.  Thus, returning home on
> Friday also ensures that I'm a grump on Sat, as well.
>
> Mary.
> -----Original Message-----
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> ]
> On Behalf Of Lloyd Wood
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:53 PM
> To: Dean Willis; Ted Lemon
> Cc: 73attendees@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [73attendees] Attendance by country
>
> At Wednesday 12/3/2008 02:42 PM -0600, Dean Willis wrote:
>> On Dec 3, 2008, at 2:33 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
>>> I have to second Mary's disagreement on canceling Fridays.  If there
>>> are sessions on Friday for me I don't want to travel that day  
>>> anyway.
>
>>> What's the hurry?
>>
>> Another $200 in travel costs (hotel and meals), opportunity of >
>> $1,000 in billable time, plus an increased probability of divorce  
>> costs
>
>> for some attendees?
>
> The divorce fees should be a valid business expense.
>
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