Re: [73attendees] Attendance by country

FWIW, the IGF, that is a UN process, this week meets in Hyderabad,  
India, and the meetings are Wed-Sat. RIPE in Dubai the other month was  
Sun-Thu.

YMMV

    Patrik

On 4 dec 2008, at 18.09, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:

> IETF is the only standards body I work in that regularly schedules  
> more than
> one Monday and Friday meeting a year.
>
> OASIS does not meet in plenary session. W3C only meets in plenary  
> session
> once a year.
>
> OASIS and W3C WG chairs know that they cannot schedule F2F meetings  
> for
> Mondays or Fridays, just does not happen. And I can't think of an
> international standards body that does. IEEE, ANSI, ETSI are all  
> parochial,
> at least in theory. Two have a geographic descriptor in the title  
> and the
> other decided to insert itself into US politics by lobbying Congress  
> on
> immigration policy.
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:54 AM, DRAGE, Keith (Keith) <
> drage@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote:
>
>> And the chief problem with a light Friday, is that we have found it
>> impossible to schedule WG ad hocs anytime from lunchtime on  
>> Thursday because
>> people have decided they are going to start going home at that time.
>>
>> If you cancel Friday, then you might as well start about thinking  
>> about
>> cancelling Thursday, etc.
>>
>> Oh by the way, can we now schedule 3 ad hocs a year so we can  
>> actually get
>> the work done.
>>
>> And IETF is the only standards body I know of that seems to think the
>> people need weekends off for those very special US participants.  
>> Many home
>> locations of anyone outside NAR cannot make the connections to  
>> attend the
>> Friday sessions and get home even on Saturday morning. And I  
>> finally got
>> home from IETF last Thursday morning.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* 73attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:73attendees-bounces@ietf.org 
>> ]
>> *On Behalf Of *Phillip Hallam-Baker
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:51 AM
>> *To:* John C Klensin
>> *Cc:* 73attendees@ietf.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [73attendees] Attendance by country
>>
>> Either meet on Friday or start mid-day Monday.
>>
>> One weekend is acceptable home-wise. two weekends are not.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:43 PM, John C Klensin <john+ietf@jck.com<john%2Bietf@jck.com 
>> >
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --On Wednesday, 03 December, 2008 14:42 -0600 Dean Willis
>>> <dean.willis@softarmor.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I have to second Mary's disagreement on canceling Fridays.
>>>>> If there   are sessions on Friday for me I don't want to
>>>>> travel that day   anyway.  What's the hurry?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Another $200 in travel costs (hotel and meals), opportunity of
>>>>> $1,000 in billable time, plus an increased probability of
>>>> divorce costs for some attendees?
>>>
>>> Yep.  With small variations, that about covers it.
>>>
>>> Of course, if we also met Saturday and part of Sunday, that
>>> would guarantee Saturday night stays, which might help offset
>>> some of the travel costs (although not the hotel ones).    On
>>> the other hand, for those attendees for which it is relevant, it
>>> would probably further increase the divorce costs (or at least
>>> the divorce risk).
>>>
>>>       john
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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