Re: the old fellowship program, was Wow, we're famous

Michael Thomas <> Fri, 16 April 2021 01:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: the old fellowship program, was Wow, we're famous
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From: Michael Thomas <>
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 18:19:02 -0700
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On 4/15/21 6:06 PM, Keith Moore wrote:
> On 4/15/21 9:02 PM, Michael Thomas wrote:
>> I remember when I first arrived on the scene and all I can say is 
>> that I was really cringeworthy. I'm pretty confident so I could take 
>> my lumps, but most people are much more risk adverse. We need to keep 
>> that in mind.
> I don't disagree, but if we make it easier for new participants to get 
> up to speed, there will be a lot less need for cringeworthy moments.   
> And WGs might also become more productive.
The problem is that getting up to speed requires reading trigabytes of 
ancient messages in archives which just doesn't happen. Even we who have 
been around for a while who might know in our gut that something is not 
exactly new have a hard time determining that one way or the other. I'm 
sort of channeling the previous thread on outside researchers and their 
reluctance to bring their work forward thread. Getting snarled at for 
that is definitely a complete turn off.