Re: What's the alternative to "snarling"?

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Mon, 19 April 2021 15:03 UTC

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From: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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On 4/19/21 10:25 AM, Leif Johansson wrote:

> These mail-in attempts were given to grad students as excercises and*every*
> *single*  *one*  got a polite and detailed answer identifying the problem. They
> also got a reference to galois theory of course. Politely.

So now we have tasks to assign to newcomers to IETF, as an initiation :)

Keith