Re: What's the alternative to "snarling"?

Leif Johansson <leifj@mnt.se> Mon, 19 April 2021 20:09 UTC

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Subject: Re: What's the alternative to "snarling"?
To: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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From: Leif Johansson <leifj@mnt.se>
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On 2021-04-19 21:46, Keith Moore wrote:
> On 4/19/21 11:51 AM, Leif Johansson wrote:
> 
>>> In other words, they can spend all of their time politely explaining in detail why proposals are Bad Ideas, instead of getting useful work done.
>> Point to where the useful work will be done if we don’t stop this.
> 
> I don't want to either dismiss your concern (which I share) or sound flippant, but I also wonder where the useful work will be done if we DO stop this.

I appreciate your attempt to keep sticking to your point and trying to be serious
about it but... I just don't buy the IETF as the group of brilliant but tortured
souls who have "snarl" at each other to make themselves heard over the din of "Bad
Ideas".

Where is this apocalyptic horde of Bad Ideas that is sucking up all of our precious
resources? The IETF meetings are growing smaller. Clearly we have figured out how
to turn people away at the door.

What problem are you trying to solve Keith?

	Cheers Leif