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Re: [113attendees] remote-inclusiveness (was: Re: hybrid meetings: the worst of both worlds)

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sat, 26 March 2022 12:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [113attendees] remote-inclusiveness (was: Re: hybrid meetings: the worst of both worlds)
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I've been doing 1 meeting remote since around 2004.
I got multicast IP to work once, but then the IETF abandonned that method.
I know all about how remote people get "excluded", but ...

Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
    > One wish i have is that people on-site should be remote-inclusive
    > whenever they do announce/organize an activity that easily could
    > include remote participation.

I don't have that wish.
I wish that people who want to organize side meetings with remote people
would just have a "zoom" meeting next week, with all the people remote.

    > And no: using the words "bar" and "bof" together is not a valid excuse

I want us to return to bar bofs happenning in bars with beer and napkins.

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