[113attendees] hybrid meetings: the worst of both worlds

Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com> Sat, 26 March 2022 08:11 UTC

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From: Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2022 09:11:04 +0100
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Subject: [113attendees] hybrid meetings: the worst of both worlds
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Hi Yoav,

That meeting was bad, but would moving it to fully virtual meeting have
made it any better? I do not think so, since, as you already mentioned, the
majority were remote anyway.

There are so many factors that can impact the performance of a WG: the
number of people attending, the interests of people in the work being
discussed, the energy in the WG, etc.

I guess I am arguing against fully virtual meeting in the future. There is
no way that we can get even close to the results of meeting in person.

Regards,
 Rifaat


On Saturday, March 26, 2022, Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, Rifaat
>
> > On 25 Mar 2022, at 18:03, Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Leif,
> >
> > I had a very positive experience with the OAuth WG meetings.
> >
> > We had two official meetings and two side meetings.
> > With the official meetings, most of the attendees were local, but we had
> good participation from remote attendees too.
> > The side meeting allowed us to discuss other topics that resulted in
> making progress that was later presented during the second official
> meeting, Another topic was discussed and we have a plan on how to proceed
> from here.
> > One random hallway chat with someone that noticed that I chair the OAuth
> WG and provided me with verbal feedback on his experience using OAuth. We
> discussed that briefly and I asked him if he is willing to share his
> thoughts with the WG. As a result, that person created a few slides that
> captured his feedback and presented these to the WG the next day during one
> of the side meetings.
> >
> > It would be really difficult to get even closer to what we achieved
> during this week if it was completely virtual.
>
> But compare and contrast that with the experience of I2NSF, where there
> were 3-6 people in the room (other than you), and where the chairs, the
> presenters, pretty much everyone but Diego were remote.
>
> Was the I2NSF experience any better than a virtual interim?
>
> Yoav
>
> BTW: Thanks again for sitting in for us.
>
>