Re: [Asrg] Adding a spam button to MUAs

Steve Atkins <steve@blighty.com> Wed, 27 January 2010 15:39 UTC

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On Jan 27, 2010, at 4:47 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:

>  there is no way that any end-user should
> ever be permitted to classify anything as spam/not-spam. [1]

Given that pretty much all operational definitions of "spam" are based
on whether the email was unsolicited or unwanted, and the recipient is
typically the only person who is likely to be able to tell whether a particular
piece of email is something they wanted or asked to receive, I'm
pretty sure you've got that wrong.

Cheers,
  Steve