Re: [Asrg] Adding a spam button to MUAs

"Andrew Richards" <ar-asrg@acrconsulting.co.uk> Fri, 05 February 2010 12:03 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Asrg] Adding a spam button to MUAs
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I'd like to add a new angle to this thread:

We've been debating how it will work, but it could also be an opportunity 
to consider what to report - in particular by classification. So far we've 
been focused on having a method of saying:

 - This is spam/unwanted

but it may be more useful to expand this to further categories (more than 
one might be specified):

 - This is spam
 - This is unwanted
 - Unsubscribe from mailing list etc.
 - This is a virus
 - This is a phishing mail

Clearly if there's just one button you'd probably have to go for "This is 
spam" or "This is unwanted", but some MUAs might choose to provide a richer 
feature set for how unwanted mail is reported.

These categories clearly overlap with those of ARF - the base values 
abuse/fraud/other/virus cover most of the above and more categories can be 
added / already exist; is there an issue with (as I understand ARF) only 
being able to specify a single category for a message? Does ARF handle a 
generic 'unwanted' adequately with its 'other' category?

Whether ARF or IMAP, POP extensions etc are used to communicate the 
unwanted-ness of the message, the ARF categories clearly look to be useful 
for the reporting and could form part of the IMAP, POP etc. mechanisms if 
that's the route taken.

cheers,

Andrew.