Re: [Asrg] Adding a spam button to MUAs

John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Sat, 06 February 2010 05:29 UTC

Return-Path: <johnl@iecc.com>
X-Original-To: asrg@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: asrg@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFA63A6782 for <asrg@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 21:29:11 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -19.053
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-19.053 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.010, BAYES_00=-2.599, HABEAS_ACCREDITED_SOI=-4.3, RCVD_IN_BSP_TRUSTED=-4.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION=0.156]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4UF2VI54Gf9D for <asrg@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 21:29:11 -0800 (PST)
Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [208.31.42.53]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C264D3A635F for <asrg@irtf.org>; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 21:29:10 -0800 (PST)
Received: (qmail 55049 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2010 05:30:03 -0000
Received: from mail1.iecc.com (208.31.42.56) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 6 Feb 2010 05:30:03 -0000
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=k1002; olt=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=6HYPMgwoDWziTx7fkxXg/bZ1zYDVFUyy/vYQOfyFrko=; b=p4ShZ7TaniV/b9Zk9UXylCFWZBdTBbx8899yiA0T41yhmcgtfcdOyU4OId//BWhb1MPaYNg7qPME2A7vBVEiQNFbEET08IKRk1TcvlpcpTkU/Sz6+PqLsBR0JKTEa2AFvn40w7rvypxlEO9wHWsAI7fT4Yd8e/NuWC5+qzdleKQ=
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=k1002; bh=6HYPMgwoDWziTx7fkxXg/bZ1zYDVFUyy/vYQOfyFrko=; b=pDM1qp94LglGyLR+R9doH/rAlbbNZICX+BCra+mb711E5G+SN2wjL8EZCdJtKlEEcpSm3P7Q5MtFYK3BmTWTQ4a6iXSGmTnaQX2YGQB7iey4o9UHonvTQWwakA/kBvWfETQZfD0Dqb9JZWKUWxni5buMWmKkkiw5oU0LVgi/U+E=
Date: 6 Feb 2010 05:30:02 -0000
Message-ID: <20100206053002.92477.qmail@simone.iecc.com>
From: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
To: asrg@irtf.org
In-Reply-To: <A7DCFA8C-E586-42A6-9532-9F0EE6DA9380@blighty.com>
Organization:
Cc:
X-Headerized: yes
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Subject: Re: [Asrg] Adding a spam button to MUAs
X-BeenThere: asrg@irtf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
Reply-To: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF <asrg@irtf.org>
List-Id: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF <asrg.irtf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg>, <mailto:asrg-request@irtf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.irtf.org/mail-archive/web/asrg>
List-Post: <mailto:asrg@irtf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:asrg-request@irtf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg>, <mailto:asrg-request@irtf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 05:29:12 -0000

>The right hand side of a SRV record is a hostname, not an email address.
>(Trivially worked around in at least two obvious ways).

Right.  I suggested using a fixed mailbox name, and there's always
the SOA hack

>Also, support for looking up SRV records is even rarer than TXT or MX.

I don't see any a priori reason to expect MUAs to be any worse at
looking up SRV than looking up TXT.  What does an MUA do now in normal
operation, as opposed to funky plugins, that needs TXT records?

R's,
John