Unannounced list status changes considered harmful (was: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org)

> <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.general/20342> shows
> that all was fine until Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:59:56 -0700.

Update: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.general/20347>
Sat, 15 Apr 2006 13:00:00 +0200 - no "megatron" / "odin" issue.

The "tools" list also changed its status from "unmoderated" to
"moderated" without announcement.  This is rather annoying, it
requires "double" subscriptions from my POV behind GMaNe, a new
status on GMaNe ("public" to "non-public"), and it's technically
dubious (a mailman subscription isn't better than GMaNe's C/R),
causing trouble (either the modeator finds the "false positive"
manually or not, let alone "when").  Creating many "disabled"
subscriptions is a pain (reading the list on GMaNe I don't want
additional copies in my inbox, therefore I've to disable it).

For some lists (e.g. IMA) I came to the conclusion that if they
don't want contributions it's simple to arrange, there will be 
an "IETF last call" later allowing to comment dubious proposals.

The IETF list management is strange - please improve this.  I'll
propose to update the "IMA" and "tools" status on GMaNe:

tools-discuss@ietf.org (= http://dir.gmane.org/ietf.tools )
ima@ietf.org (= http://dir.gmane.org/ietf.ima )
--  
Frank  (X-Posted on gmane.discuss and gmane.ietf.general)

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