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Re: Effective discourse in the IETF

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Fri, 05 July 2019 17:59 UTC

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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
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Subject: Re: Effective discourse in the IETF
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2019 13:59:42 -0400
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Cc: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>, IETF Rinse Repeat <ietf@ietf.org>
To: Eric Gray <eric.gray@ericsson.com>
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On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Eric Gray <eric.gray@ericsson.com> wrote:
> But I have known quite a few who would learn only that asking a question was a mistake.

Perhaps.  Sometimes when you get your answer, you realize that you are not wrong.   But it’s still useful to ask!  Also, I’ve found that it’s not uncommon for asking questions to reduce the energy of the debate, because now the other person feels like they are being listened to, and not just contradicted.

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