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Re: Effective discourse in the IETF

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Wed, 03 July 2019 23:51 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Effective discourse in the IETF
Thread-Topic: Effective discourse in the IETF
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Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 23:51:01 +0000
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>    We appear to agree in the sense that we both want to make sure everyone 
    is able to air their views.
  
Yes.  Good.

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