Re: RFC Series Editor Resignation

[Richard Barnes <[e-mail]>]

I would invite you to re-read Alissa's message, which is explicit that the
issue is Mike's "repeated use of unprofessional language" -- not anything
to do with his arguments.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:52 AM Keith Moore <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> No, what is being talked about is the suppression of necessary and
> constructive speech out of a misguided idea that telling the truth is
> disrespectful.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 3, 2019, at 10:49 AM, Richard Barnes <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> Nobody is talking about varnishing truth, Keith.  They're talking about
> treating fellow contributors with respect.  There's a big gap between those
> two ideas.
>
> --Richard
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:42 AM Keith Moore <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
>
>> I believe such rules (or something akin to them [*]) are essential to
>> productive technical discussion and therefore essential to IETF.  I also
>> believe that efforts to prevent people from telling the unvarnished truth
>> about a technical mechanism, or a political one, are harmful to IETF in the
>> most extreme sense possible.
>>
>> [*] my preferred version is closer to “Criticize ideas, not people.  But
>> criticize harmful ideas when necessary to prevent harm even if there’s a
>> risk that people will take such criticism personally. “
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> > On Jul 3, 2019, at 10:13 AM, Job Snijders <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> >
>> > believe "Crocker's Rules" are incompatible with the IETF process and
>> > as such notifications via IETF's communication channels about whether
>> > someone adheres to Crocker's Rules or not, don't serve a purpose.
>>
>>