Re: Effective discourse in the IETF

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Fri, 05 July 2019 11:45 UTC

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Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2019 04:30:26 -0700
To: Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx>, ietf@ietf.org
From: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>
Subject: Re: Effective discourse in the IETF
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Hi Richard,
At 08:37 AM 03-07-2019, Richard Barnes wrote:
>I would also challenge the phrase 
>"self-censorship".  Adapting ones 
>communications for an audience is not 
>censorship, it's effective communications.  It 
>can require that we think a bit before we speak, 
>but that cost is offset by the benefit of a better functioning community.

One of the angles to "self-censorship" is that it 
is influenced by the attitude which is 
visible.  I'll try to illustrate it as follows: 
is it permissible for a participant to express 
his/her disagreement?  Is it permissible for the 
discussion which occurs after that to be confrontational?

Some persons would be reluctant to express an 
opinion in a venue which is perceived as 
hostile.  Do anyone wish to read that opinion or not?

This thread was triggered by a decision which was 
based on a RFC which was written 19 years 
ago.  The attitude at that time were probably 
different.  The problem is likely the same, i.e. 
figuring out what is acceptable and what is not acceptable.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy