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Re: Choices or language and tone (was: Re: RFC Series Editor Resignation)

Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> Wed, 03 July 2019 14:02 UTC

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From: Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx>
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 10:01:42 -0400
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Subject: Re: Choices or language and tone (was: Re: RFC Series Editor Resignation)
To: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
Cc: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>, Mike StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net>, IETF <ietf@ietf.org>
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On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:00 AM Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:

>
> --On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 20:44 -0400 Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > As I mentioned to you off-list, your request below for Ben to
> > use his inside voice is demeaning, unprofessional language
> > that is not suitable for the IETF discussion list, per RFC
> > 3005. Repeated use of unprofessional language may be deterring
> > others from voicing their opinion for fear of being
> > disrespected. It is important that everyone in the community
> > feels comfortable enough to express their own views on the
> > IETF discussion list if they choose to do so.
> > ...
>
> Alissa:
>
> Mike has raised some topics that need discussion, but the tone does worry
> me.  I believe the tone is keeping others from voicing their opinion, and
> that it is important that everyone feel comfortable enough to express their
> own view on this list.
>

+1

None of the issues John raises (even if I agreed with them) would excuse
Mike's tone.

--Richard

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