RE: Effective discourse in the IETF

Eric Gray <eric.gray@ericsson.com> Fri, 05 July 2019 17:40 UTC

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From: Eric Gray <eric.gray@ericsson.com>
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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Randy,



I essentially agree, with the qualification that - if you don't "posit a wrong answer" that wouldn't pass the least discerning sanity filter - you could find yourself "filtered out" of all subsequent discussion.



If I feel sure that I am wrong, I would think about the question further before adding to the inevitable noise.



I have hopes that this is a common point of view, in spite of evidence that occasionally arise to the contrary.



😊

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Eric



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From: ietf <ietf-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Randy Bush
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Subject: Re: Effective discourse in the IETF



> If you think youʼre definitely wrong about something, and the goal of

> a discussion is to find a right answer, why would you contribute that

> something to a discussion?



on some mailing lists, e.g. nanog, a good way to get an answer to a question is to posit a wrong answer.  if you just ask the question, no one will answer; but 412 people are happy to correct you. :)



of course it requires a thick skin and the ability to sort through 412 responses.



randy