Re: RFC Series Editor Resignation

"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu> Sat, 29 June 2019 00:15 UTC

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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 20:15:46 -0400
From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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Subject: Re: RFC Series Editor Resignation
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On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 07:45:19PM -0400, Keith Moore wrote:
> On 6/28/19 7:22 PM, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> 
> > With respect, I have a hard time seeing how there can be stupidity without
> > some*one* being stupid
> 
> As far as I can tell, exactly this happens all the time. Well-meaning,
> intelligent people often produce "stupid" results, especially in
> collaboration with one another, which were difficult for the collaborators
> to anticipate, without any person or people actually exhibiting lack of
> intelligence or malice.

Indeed:

https://thriveglobal.com/stories/why-smart-individuals-make-dumb-group-decisions/

						- Ted