IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [v6ops] Vicious circle [ULA precedence [Thoughts about wider operational input]]

Gert Doering <gert@space.net> Tue, 03 May 2022 15:48 UTC

Return-Path: <gert@space.net>
X-Original-To: v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC7FC159A29 for <v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 May 2022 08:48:45 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.096
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.096 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=space.net
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fw5aHmdCINgq for <v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 May 2022 08:48:39 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from gatekeeper1-relay.space.net (gatekeeper1-relay.space.net [IPv6:2001:608:3:85::38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4918FC159822 for <v6ops@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 May 2022 08:48:37 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=space.net; i=@space.net; q=dns/txt; s=esa; t=1651592919; x=1683128919; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=5AMmQWOuWWSQOlefDwii8jHG6J78kyZNC8Svph5+0/A=; b=bFAWSoPHtW9yZvO5toCoCo4aDOO5KIA7O+oWsHp9otTAj5C1eN39wRlv R8Jh5mzGRwQI5oVHwvyQ29Lg/ywzMmAQEa0bl/lAF/nHzWtaUHTz2KrFk xLtlLrDPiutHGHBg5SsnMC7gX1/rCiEI9MGNa5DCxxT/WCqjvDfkzCGol mrSCfEL09SJQiHWsfmsCqdy/RMipdbXPDY9TZwEUfaVvGYxjHzsOQA/1W joM91+b5LqSVPfr4d0RL80vh0WHzJVt7FT+k6rE7rr0u73HmAckXIUED5 YSNjurWhnpUvg+JlDTKHMxsGwTQnSgmAHL8yjwGkrik2QchFVLR8JP9Dh A==;
X-SpaceNet-SBRS: None
Received: from mobil.space.net ([195.30.115.67]) by gatekeeper1-relay.space.net with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 03 May 2022 17:48:34 +0200
X-Original-To: v6ops@ietf.org
Received: from mobil.space.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mobil.space.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16EF4375D for <v6ops@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 May 2022 17:48:33 +0200 (CEST)
X-SpaceNet-Relay: true
Received: from moebius4.space.net (moebius4.space.net [IPv6:2001:608:2:2::251]) by mobil.space.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A86C40EB2; Tue, 3 May 2022 17:48:33 +0200 (CEST)
Received: by moebius4.space.net (Postfix, from userid 1007) id 84330133885; Tue, 3 May 2022 17:48:33 +0200 (CEST)
Date: Tue, 03 May 2022 17:48:33 +0200
From: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
To: Kevin Myers <kevin.myers@iparchitechs.com>
Cc: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, Gert Doering <gert@space.net>, "v6ops@ietf.org" <v6ops@ietf.org>, 6man list <ipv6@ietf.org>
Message-ID: <YnFO0TD/2dhLQigR@Space.Net>
References: <CAFU7BAST-oNGpy4JvODDsf=8eS69hV8XCi8OgEHBkkoujRN3Rw@mail.gmail.com> <699f556a3eac41179a80d2cc8749a191@huawei.com> <CAO42Z2wiebCOPmtcEOJ3rOaZEpHE7qFZZTf5KLWybSsL6rOd9Q@mail.gmail.com> <626B2E07.5070601@jmaimon.com> <m1nlQyw-0000F4C@stereo.hq.phicoh.net> <BN8PR07MB7076EE22F0BFDB2D192B065D95C19@BN8PR07MB7076.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> <m1nlmPp-0000JaC@stereo.hq.phicoh.net> <YnDTxRS+r6BZDS0L@Space.Net> <21382.1651583688@localhost> <BN8PR07MB70767ADAB58D152B7E0AC6CB95C09@BN8PR07MB7076.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2x4/rm2bdZoWfsNa"
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <BN8PR07MB70767ADAB58D152B7E0AC6CB95C09@BN8PR07MB7076.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/v6ops/2_lsrRcx6IJUvqiAuKqEqPI_S6Y>
Subject: Re: [v6ops] Vicious circle [ULA precedence [Thoughts about wider operational input]]
X-BeenThere: v6ops@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34
Precedence: list
List-Id: v6ops discussion list <v6ops.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/v6ops>, <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/v6ops/>
List-Post: <mailto:v6ops@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops>, <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2022 15:48:45 -0000

Hi,

On Tue, May 03, 2022 at 01:45:19PM +0000, Kevin Myers wrote:
> If we are going to support both worlds (which is the only real
> path forward for the success of IPv6) then IPv6 systems must become
> of paramount importance and not just a hyper focus on networks.
> It's all important.

Yes.

(This is why I applaude Microsoft and Apple for making IPv6 a first-class 
citizen in their stacks, and especially Apple for really leveraging LLA 
and multicast for their magic stuff)


Gert Doering
        -- NetMaster
-- 
have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?

SpaceNet AG                      Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer
Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14        Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann
D-80807 Muenchen                 HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen)
Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444         USt-IdNr.: DE813185279

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email