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Re: [v6ops] Thoughts about wider operational input

Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 21 March 2022 21:46 UTC

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Following along these lines. We have had various and sundry talk about their IPv6 deployments in V6ops. Could we have an enterprise operator talk about what stops them from deploying? Looking for volunteers/suggestions.

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> On Mar 21, 2022, at 1:33 PM, Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I have thought some about the discussion we had in the V6ops meeting about increasing operational input. Several suggestions were made: add a separate meeting, segregate parts of the meeting, attend the IEPG, use an interim, and so on. One thought that I had was to schedule a meeting at RIPE in May.
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> None of these address what seems to me to be a core problem: ISPs are deploying, but enterprise isn’t. How do we get enterprise on board?
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